Comments on: Aircraft carriers? http://duncancross.net/2009/01/aircraft-carriers/ ill. humored. Sun, 14 Mar 2010 03:43:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Two myths, four charts « DUNCAN CROSS http://duncancross.net/2009/01/aircraft-carriers/comment-page-1/#comment-519 Two myths, four charts « DUNCAN CROSS Wed, 14 Jan 2009 23:14:34 +0000 http://duncancross.net/?p=617#comment-519 [...] comments on a previous post, Peter has come to the defense of Dr. Rich - arguing that universal care will inevitably drive [...] [...] comments on a previous post, Peter has come to the defense of Dr. Rich – arguing that universal care will inevitably drive [...]

]]> By: Peter http://duncancross.net/2009/01/aircraft-carriers/comment-page-1/#comment-517 Peter Wed, 14 Jan 2009 21:47:51 +0000 http://duncancross.net/?p=617#comment-517 Many physicians (30%) already are extremely dissatisfied with Medicare and Medicaid and refuse to take on new patients in that category. That percentage will grow as Medicare goes further into bankruptcy and makes deeper payment cuts. This is the reality of medicine today as a result of government involvement. Extrapolate to see what happens when the government's role expands. If 90% of physicians refuse to be slaves of the government, where will the patients go? Where the physicians go, the patients will follow. P.S. NHS in Britain prohibits patients from purchasing certain medications outside of the government. Many physicians (30%) already are extremely dissatisfied with Medicare and Medicaid and refuse to take on new patients in that category. That percentage will grow as Medicare goes further into bankruptcy and makes deeper payment cuts. This is the reality of medicine today as a result of government involvement. Extrapolate to see what happens when the government’s role expands. If 90% of physicians refuse to be slaves of the government, where will the patients go?

Where the physicians go, the patients will follow.

P.S. NHS in Britain prohibits patients from purchasing certain medications outside of the government.

]]> By: dx http://duncancross.net/2009/01/aircraft-carriers/comment-page-1/#comment-516 dx Wed, 14 Jan 2009 19:21:46 +0000 http://duncancross.net/?p=617#comment-516 Peter - you're assuming there will be enough people with the means and dissatisfaction necessary to support a second-tier, and that most doctors will find universal healthcare unacceptable. These are far from proven assumptions; if this is something that happens in real life, you - or Dr. Rich - ought to be able to demonstrate it from the dozen or so industrialized countries with functioning universal healthcare. So far all I'm seeing is a lot of inference, and not a lot of evidence. Peter – you’re assuming there will be enough people with the means and dissatisfaction necessary to support a second-tier, and that most doctors will find universal healthcare unacceptable. These are far from proven assumptions; if this is something that happens in real life, you – or Dr. Rich – ought to be able to demonstrate it from the dozen or so industrialized countries with functioning universal healthcare. So far all I’m seeing is a lot of inference, and not a lot of evidence.

]]> By: Peter http://duncancross.net/2009/01/aircraft-carriers/comment-page-1/#comment-515 Peter Wed, 14 Jan 2009 18:42:52 +0000 http://duncancross.net/?p=617#comment-515 Clearly, a two-tier system is not in the best interest of universal healthcare proponents. Most physicians would choose to take high-paying patients, whether they are privately insured or self-paying, rather than going through a government system wrought with excessive bureaucracy which pays out less to decrease systemic costs. Why deal with the problems of working for the government, which include more headaches for lesser pay? This will lead to fewer physicians becoming a part of the government's system and less access to medical care for individuals within the government system. The government must absolutely prohibit self-pay to prevent this situation. Without it, the two-tier system will result. Clearly, a two-tier system is not in the best interest of universal healthcare proponents. Most physicians would choose to take high-paying patients, whether they are privately insured or self-paying, rather than going through a government system wrought with excessive bureaucracy which pays out less to decrease systemic costs. Why deal with the problems of working for the government, which include more headaches for lesser pay? This will lead to fewer physicians becoming a part of the government’s system and less access to medical care for individuals within the government system.

The government must absolutely prohibit self-pay to prevent this situation. Without it, the two-tier system will result.

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